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# The challenges of getting robots and AI to be more human
- URL: https://katecarruthers.com/the-challenges-of-getting-robots-and-ai-to-be-more-human/
- Published: 2024-12-17T20:52:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-05-15T00:20:31.000Z
- Author: Kate Carruthers
- Tags: ai, #kcarruthers-me-com, podcast, robots, artificial intelligence, Data Revolution Podcast, machine learning, #Migrated-1776594221493, #wp, #wp-post, #Import 2026-04-19 20:23, #Import 2026-06-26 08:45

This time my guest is Dr Brandon Rohrer. He is a data scientist who originally started in researching robots to assist with stroke recovery, and who now works on solving data challenges. Brandon, whom I tracked down via his online discovery work on [https://e2eml.school/blog.html](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video%5Fdescription&redir%5Ftoken=QUFFLUhqbDZENVhlSjFnYXBNazBtcVIzYjZhT2pRS09Hd3xBQ3Jtc0tuTXJFSUQyT0xMQlo0S2FYbEpFTW8zMlR1U2lsOVN5Vk9rX3BteG1jczJwU0k5d2tuNXMwa0kzY2hzYU9RNU8wdDZONjMtYjktcVVxNHUtdHpXckZaZWVrTGFjeTIya09sWWJybVNjWUxpZm9KTVNPZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fe2eml.school%2Fblog.html&v=47vedDQc81I&ref=katecarruthers.com) where I was captivated by his journey in understanding AI. It is a great resource, and I did show it to my team who also loved it. We had a fascinating and wide-ranging chat that went from the demise of Twitter to the challenges of getting robots and AI to be more human.

[https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Tc5wGRi1afqfw6d7SV5kD](https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Tc5wGRi1afqfw6d7SV5kD?ref=katecarruthers.com)